I’m not a Christian, but the Bible has some great stories and it has the best story about this very thing, which is the story of Moses and Exodus. So Moses is in reality, remember, an Egyptian prince. He is the adopted brother of the pharaoh. Whether he existed or not is not important. The issue is how the story is constructed. So, a leader of the old world; it creates a situation where he takes his people out of slavery. But the moment they’ve been out – but this is really his idea and not theirs, because remember, within the short of period of time, he goes up to have a quick chat with God and they’re all down and going, “I think we’ve made a mistake. Let’s build an idol and get back to the good old days,” a bit like in the Matrix, if you remember, there’s a guy who says, “I know it’s a fake, but I’d like to have steak again,” you know? We all know it’s bondage.
Anyway, Moses comes down, breaks the tablets, and they are condemned to wander around lost until every single man and woman who was born a slave has died. And only those who have never known slavery can cross over to the Promised Land, including Moses himself. He dies on the other side of the river. He doesn’t go to the Promised Land. I find this a story of great relevance today. Again, I’m 64. I went to boarding school aged eight in England. I was like a man born in a suit. I wore all sorts of crazy ties, and hats, and collars, and uniforms, and I come from the most traditional – my family are either bankers or soldiers all the way back. So I’m the most traditional person.
I think I understand the new quite well, but if you push me, you know, if you put me under pressure, all my previous culture, you’ll see it immediately. I think we’re all like that. It’s not you and me. See, my son has never had a job. He’s not called Joshua, but my faith is… it will take at least three generations. It’ll be my grandchildren who will do this. It’s not going to happen in yours or mine. We’re going to live through the Thirty Years’ War, I think. I don’t think – is there going to be some leader that comes up? I think what you’ll see, though, is you will see people coming together about, “I’m going to help you, you’re going to help me learn how to grow food better locally. How do we have chickens in Paris?” And someone might lead that project.